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The Fighting Cochrane
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Icon 1 posted November 04, 2006 08:42 PM      Profile for The Fighting Cochrane     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
"Bling"

For the last several months, I don't think a week has gone by without that word popping up in one of our newscasts. Horrible.

However, I would like to see the return of "skeezer" to the lexicon of America.

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DoctorDepends
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Icon 1 posted November 04, 2006 08:44 PM      Profile for DoctorDepends   Email DoctorDepends   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
"alleged"

back in my day, we got an "F" if we used the word in copy in school. we were told it was not conversational and showed lack of imagination in writing.

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And any variation on Ironic and Surreal. No one EVER uses either of them in their correct context.

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Pro
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Icon 1 posted November 04, 2006 10:57 PM      Profile for Pro     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by DoctorDepends:
"alleged"

back in my day, we got an "F" if we used the word in copy in school. we were told it was not conversational and showed lack of imagination in writing.

What should one use instead? Provide an example.
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sonorandesert
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Icon 1 posted November 05, 2006 12:05 AM      Profile for sonorandesert     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I've said before and I'll continue to say...
"24/7" redundant.
"24/7/365" really redundant.

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Cadbury-Obsessed Newsmaker
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Icon 1 posted November 05, 2006 03:07 AM      Profile for Cadbury-Obsessed Newsmaker     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
In most cases there are ways to get around "alleged" (which I was taught was a big no-no as well). Instead of "alleged shooter" - "witnesses say Mr. Smith shot," "police say Mr. Smith shot," "Mr. Smith is accused/suspected of shooting," etc... I can't stand "alleged." There really are a whole lot of alternatives. And what's worse is when an actual crime occurred - like a bank robbery - and you hear "alleged bank robbery." There's no alleged about it - it happened.

And The Fighting Cochrane, I'm with you on "bling" - that word's been tired since about 1999, and yet people still drag it out.

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Michigan J. Frog
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quote:
Originally posted by Pro:
quote:
Originally posted by DoctorDepends:
"alleged"

back in my day, we got an "F" if we used the word in copy in school. we were told it was not conversational and showed lack of imagination in writing.

What should one use instead? Provide an example.
There are any number of ways to avoid using this word, which provides absolutely NO legal protection whatsoever anyway.

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That's what I'm tallking about
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quote:
Originally posted by The Fighting Cochrane:
"Bling"

For the last several months, I don't think a week has gone by without that word popping up in one of our newscasts. Horrible.

However, I would like to see the return of "skeezer" to the lexicon of America.

I like your suggestion of "skeezer." I'd also welcome back "jimmy hat"
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Light of Truth.

Not the phrase, really. The poster using it.

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Big Poppa Pump
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"and what not"

"basically"

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Closure.

I cringe every time I hear it.

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"Well..."

"Team coverage"

"Shoot me a PM"

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Icon 10 posted November 05, 2006 07:46 AM      Profile for Scarlet Termite   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
What does "skeezer" mean? I like that word!

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Icon 1 posted November 05, 2006 07:52 AM      Profile for Soul Doubt   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
A good time was had by all.

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quote:
Originally posted by Soul Doubt:
A good time was had by all.

Does anybody outside of small-town newspapers still use this phrase? If so, yikes.

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Icon 1 posted November 05, 2006 08:25 AM      Profile for SEPhotog     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
"Speaking out" drives me crazy.

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Historian
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Icon 1 posted November 05, 2006 08:44 AM      Profile for Historian     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Scarlet Termite:
What does "skeezer" mean? I like that word!

I think it means a very old mosquito. You know, a cross between "skeeter" and "geezer?"

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s'news
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Icon 1 posted November 05, 2006 08:46 AM      Profile for s'news     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by The Fighting Cochrane:
"Bling"


Actually, it started as "bling bling" and shortened to the one word version. The next phase will be "bli," or maybe "ing."

[ November 05, 2006, 08:46 AM: Message edited by: s'news ]

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Jane Craig
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"a shout-out"

[ November 05, 2006, 09:39 AM: Message edited by: Jane Craig ]

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quote:
Originally posted by Cadbury-Obsessed Newsmaker:
In most cases there are ways to get around "alleged" (which I was taught was a big no-no as well). Instead of "alleged shooter" - "witnesses say Mr. Smith shot," "police say Mr. Smith shot," "Mr. Smith is accused/suspected of shooting," etc...

Those sound about the same. Personal preference.
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quote:
Originally posted by Michigan J. Frog:
There are any number of ways to avoid using this word, which provides absolutely NO legal protection whatsoever anyway.

What does?
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Now, I'm no newswriter, but Mother of God

In a newscast:

Blaze - How about FIRE? I once read a story about a housefire. The word FIRE was mumbled only ONE TIME, and that was only to utter the word "firefighter".

Behind Bars - What's wrong with the phrase "In Jail"??! Is there some law that prevents the phrase "in jail" from airing on a television news broadcast?

We have a crew on the scene - Yeah right...

[ November 05, 2006, 11:21 AM: Message edited by: Auto Tranz ]

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quote:
Originally posted by SEPhotog:
"Speaking out" drives me crazy.

I'm with you on "Speaking Out."
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"You know what I'm sayin'?"
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"Robust" Just stop, seriously.

"Peeps" Unless you're talking about the marshmallow ones, for the love of God, STOP IT.

"Synergy"

"Anything with izzle" It's just annoying. We get it, you have a speech impediment.

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Stay the course.

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quote:
I'm with you on "bling" - that word's been tired since about 1999, and yet people still drag it out.

If people are still using it, it's not so tired. What'd they say before they started using "bling" anyway?
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Attaching "gate" to any scandal. Watergate was the name of a hotel, for cryin' out loud.

Calling employees or associates "workers." When this is used in news copy, it often sounds patronizing.

Attaching "Nation" to any group of sports fans: Raider Nation, Red Sox Nation, etc.

The use of too much cop talk in news copy. It's a newscast and we're talking to real people. It's not an episode of a cop show.

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quote:
Originally posted by dallasphotog:
"dcolton"

Try Mr. Dcolton. It might make you feel a little better.
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quote:
Originally posted by Dcolton:
quote:
Originally posted by dallasphotog:
"dcolton"

Try Mr. Dcolton. It might make you feel a little better.
Nah, that would show respect.
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"Makeshift memorial."
"Shocked and saddened."
"Fighting for his life."

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quote:
Originally posted by Captain Bangaroo:
"and what not"

I have a friend that uses that all the frickin' time...drives me crazy!!! [Frustrated]

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"Liberal".

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Before anyone else posts, PLEASE explain the origin of the word "chops," and then never use it again.

(e.g. Sally has the reporting chops for the job)

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The origin of the phrase "having the chops" dates back to the 19th century India, when "Chop" meant quality. So "First Chop" meant "Highest Quality".

It's derived from the Hindi term for the colonial stamp or mark placed on goods.

"Not having the chops" means you aren't of high enough quality/skills to pass the test.

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