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Produce man
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I give you [URL=http://media.newsbusters.org/stories/weather-channel-founder-global-warming-greatest-scam-history.html?q=blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/11/07/weather-channel-founder-global-warming- greatest-scam-history]this.[/URL]

Looks like Al Gore is wrong. The debate ISN'T over.

[ November 08, 2007, 02:57 PM: Message edited by: Produce man ]

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quote:
Originally posted by Produce man:
I give you [URL=http://media.newsbusters.org/stories/weather-channel-founder-global-warming-greatest-scam-history.html?q=blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/11/07/weather-channel-founder-global-warming- greatest-scam-history]this.[/URL]

Looks like Al Gore is wrong. The debate ISN'T over.

Edit: Damnit, for some reason it won't just post the url link. Let me just post the article...

http://media.newsbusters.org/stories/weather-channel-founder-global-warming-greatest-scam-history.html?q=blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/11/07/weather-channel-founder-global-warming-great est-scam-history

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Well, it took 2 attempts, but there's the link.

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Another right wing web site found by Produce... [Sleep]
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It's all about a tv weather guy who doesn't believe in global climate change.

Yea, that's who should be the final say in the matter... a guy who needs hairspray to do his job and makes up words like "thorms" because "thunderstorms" is just to hard to say.

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quote:
Originally posted by Pro:
Another right wing web site found by Produce... [Sleep]

Typical liberal. Ignore the article because of the source. [Roll Eyes]

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quote:
Originally posted by Tripe Face:
It's all about a tv weather guy who doesn't believe in global climate change.

Yea, that's who should be the final say in the matter... a guy who needs hairspray to do his job and makes up words like "thorms" because "thunderstorms" is just to hard to say.

Do you have similar condemnation for the Weather Channel meteorologist who said that any weather-person who denied Anthropogenic Climate Change should have their seal removed, and be discredited?

Just wondering, because that same ad hominem reasoning applies...

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quote:
Originally posted by Produce man:
quote:
Originally posted by Pro:
Another right wing web site found by Produce... [Sleep]

Typical liberal. Ignore the article because of the source. [Roll Eyes]
Oh? Tell me, how much do YOU read on, say, DailyKos or MoveOn.org?

Typical neo-con.

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quote:
Originally posted by Vulcan:
quote:
Originally posted by Tripe Face:
It's all about a tv weather guy who doesn't believe in global climate change.

Yea, that's who should be the final say in the matter... a guy who needs hairspray to do his job and makes up words like "thorms" because "thunderstorms" is just to hard to say.

Do you have similar condemnation for the Weather Channel meteorologist who said that any weather-person who denied Anthropogenic Climate Change should have their seal removed, and be discredited?

Just wondering, because that same ad hominem reasoning applies...

I'm unaware the person you speak of, but there's a difference between my criticizing the focus of the OP and this person who is advocating severe punishment for people he disagrees with.

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quote:
Originally posted by Pro:
quote:
Originally posted by Produce man:
quote:
Originally posted by Pro:
Another right wing web site found by Produce... [Sleep]

Typical liberal. Ignore the article because of the source. [Roll Eyes]
Oh? Tell me, how much do YOU read on, say, DailyKos or MoveOn.org?

None. But if you were to post an article that was on the site, I'd at least have the stones to comment on the article itself, rather than just blow it off because it was on that site.

You might try it sometime.

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quote:
Originally posted by Tripe Face:
quote:
Originally posted by Vulcan:
quote:
Originally posted by Tripe Face:
It's all about a tv weather guy who doesn't believe in global climate change.

Yea, that's who should be the final say in the matter... a guy who needs hairspray to do his job and makes up words like "thorms" because "thunderstorms" is just to hard to say.

Do you have similar condemnation for the Weather Channel meteorologist who said that any weather-person who denied Anthropogenic Climate Change should have their seal removed, and be discredited?

Just wondering, because that same ad hominem reasoning applies...

I'm unaware the person you speak of, but there's a difference between my criticizing the focus of the OP and this person who is advocating severe punishment for people he disagrees with.
I'd like to know who this meteorologist is, as well. But I do know that Al Gore disputed a scientist on the IPCC, and said he should be removed from the IPCC.

All because he didn't buy Gore's illusion.

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quote:
Originally posted by Produce man:
quote:
Originally posted by Pro:
quote:
Originally posted by Produce man:
quote:
Originally posted by Pro:
Another right wing web site found by Produce... [Sleep]

Typical liberal. Ignore the article because of the source. [Roll Eyes]
Oh? Tell me, how much do YOU read on, say, DailyKos or MoveOn.org?

None. But if you were to post an article that was on the site, I'd at least have the stones to comment on the article itself, rather than just blow it off because it was on that site.

You might try it sometime.

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While he's a great on-air weatherman, he's just another who's full of hot air.

Just another nutcase's opinion without fact. God, I hate that.

By the way, when the affects of climate change are finally seen he'll be six feet under without a care.

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Global Warming nuts are too salty. I like Emerald Nuts instead. I ate a handful and Robert Goulet died.

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i've worked with john. he's quite a character. never got over the twc thing. it was all he talked about between shows.

if you had posted an objective article from an accredited science or news source, the replies would be more civil. but that's never your intent. nothing wrong with an opinion piece, but the replies referencing bible chapters as prophecy rendered the site ridiculous.

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quote:
Originally posted by Nanook of the North:
While he's a great on-air weatherman, he's just another who's full of hot air.

Just another nutcase's opinion without fact. God, I hate that.

By the way, when the affects of climate change are finally seen he'll be six feet under without a care.

WHO is this guy?

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Here's what I like.
When Produce starts a thread,
the title is:
"For all you global warming nuts..."
Guaranteed to spark
a civil discussion.

[ November 08, 2007, 03:59 PM: Message edited by: writer2 ]

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Would thermally increasing spherical square or hexagonal piece of metal, plastic, or other material that has a spirally grooved hole into which a bolt fits be more conducive to lively dialogue?
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quote:
Originally posted by writer2:
Here's what I like.
When Produce starts a thread,
the title is:
"For all you global warming nuts..."
Guaranteed to spark
a civil discussion.

I meant "nuts" as in those of you who love to discuss global warming.

Nice try.

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Here we go.

Heidi Cullen, Weather Channel. From her blog:

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I'd like to take that suggestion a step further. If a meteorologist has an AMS Seal of Approval, which is used to confer legitimacy to TV meteorologists, then meteorologists have a responsibility to truly educate themselves on the science of global warming. (One good resource if you don't have a lot of time is the Pew Center's Climate Change 101.)

Meteorologists are among the few people trained in the sciences who are permitted regular access to our living rooms. And in that sense, they owe it to their audience to distinguish between solid, peer-reviewed science and junk political controversy. If a meteorologist can't speak to the fundamental science of climate change, then maybe the AMS shouldn't give them a Seal of Approval. Clearly, the AMS doesn't agree that global warming can be blamed on cyclical weather patterns. It's like allowing a meteorologist to go on-air and say that hurricanes rotate clockwise and tsunamis are caused by the weather. It's not a political statement...it's just an incorrect statement.

This from her blog. Not from the Freepers. Not from the ExxonMobile Institute for Better Science.

Discuss.

[ November 08, 2007, 07:29 PM: Message edited by: Vulcan ]

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I think the Weather Channel woman who said AMS seals should be denied for not agreeing with Gore's political agenda (which is exactly what it is) is a fool. She should be roundly criticized for her intolerance and arrogance.

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quote:
Originally posted by Produce man:
Damnit, for some reason it won't just post the url link.

Not too bright, are ya?

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quote:
Originally posted by Produce man:
quote:
Originally posted by Pro:
quote:
Originally posted by Produce man:
quote:
Originally posted by Pro:
Another right wing web site found by Produce... [Sleep]

Typical liberal. Ignore the article because of the source. [Roll Eyes]
Oh? Tell me, how much do YOU read on, say, DailyKos or MoveOn.org?

None. But if you were to post an article that was on the site, I'd at least have the stones to comment on the article itself, rather than just blow it off because it was on that site.

You might try it sometime.

Maybe you'll remember this thread where you said,

quote:
It's from the Huffington blog.

'Nuff said. [Roll Eyes]



[ November 08, 2007, 10:59 PM: Message edited by: Jax ]

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quote:
Originally posted by Produce man:
But if you were to post an article that was on the site, I'd at least have the stones to comment on the article itself, rather than just blow it off because it was on that site.

I rather doubt that. I've seen you "blow off"
many things because they were on a web site you didn't like. Don't deny it.

Hypocrite.

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quote:
Originally posted by Produce man:
I meant "nuts" as in those of you who love to discuss global warming.

So I'd take it that you'd have no problem if someone used the term "gun nuts" to refer to people who oppose gun control?
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quote:
Originally posted by writer2:
Here's what I like.
When Produce starts a thread,
the title is:
"For all you global warming nuts..."
Guaranteed to spark
a civil discussion.

I love it when

Paper Trail and 2:30 do the same thing. Some people are not looking for civilty.

Now about global warming. WOuld it hurt any of us to be a little more aware of what's going on around us? I think if we all did our part to help the environment, no one would eb harmed. Better to err on the side of safe than sorry.

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quote:
Now about global warming. WOuld it hurt any of us to be a little more aware of what's going on around us? I think if we all did our part to help the environment, no one would eb harmed. Better to err on the side of safe than sorry.
Exactly. A little less pollution in the environment is a good thing.
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quote:
Originally posted by U of Md Terps--Let's go Maryland:
quote:
Originally posted by writer2:
Here's what I like.
When Produce starts a thread,
the title is:
"For all you global warming nuts..."
Guaranteed to spark
a civil discussion.

I love it when

Paper Trail and 2:30 do the same thing. Some people are not looking for civilty.

Now about global warming. WOuld it hurt any of us to be a little more aware of what's going on around us? I think if we all did our part to help the environment, no one would eb harmed. Better to err on the side of safe than sorry.

I agree but why should we conserve when the majority of the people talking about global warming (ie Al Gore, hollywood celbs) are not doing it. Al Gore still lives in a energy consuming mantion and hollywood celebs aren't giving up their multi-million dolllar mantions for more energy conserving homes. We should all do our part to help recycle and conserve energy. When the people telling us to do it aren't doing it themselves then I have a problem.
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tater, I don't know how it is where you live. In my city we have days in the summer where the air quality is so bad we are warned to stay indoors. Something is just plain wrong with that.
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quote:
Originally posted by FD2BLK:
tater, I don't know how it is where you live. In my city we have days in the summer where the air quality is so bad we are warned to stay indoors. Something is just plain wrong with that.

Depends on where you live...I live in an area that has a lot of wind and inversions that don't last long so we don't have bad air quality (plus we don't have a ton of car traffic)
Areas such as LA, the southeast...normal weather patterns and lots of traffic lead to bad air days.

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Exactly. It makes me wonder what the folks who are against tighter pollution controls are thinking.

For some I guess it's more important to score points by attacking Al Gore. [Roll Eyes]

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quote:
Originally posted by U of Md Terps--Let's go Maryland:
quote:
Originally posted by writer2:
Here's what I like.
When Produce starts a thread,
the title is:
"For all you global warming nuts..."
Guaranteed to spark
a civil discussion.

I love it when

Paper Trail and 2:30 do the same thing. Some people are not looking for civilty.


Terps, I gotta step up
for Paper Trail here.
He or she posts articles,
with the title as the title
of the thread. As far as
I can see, PT does not change
the title of the article
to reflect PT's bias,
whatever that might be.
2:30, however, does.

That said, I wish
I could read this
freakin' thread.

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quote:
Originally posted by FD2BLK:
Exactly. It makes me wonder what the folks who are against tighter pollution controls are thinking.

For some I guess it's more important to score points by attacking Al Gore. [Roll Eyes]

Well for the record when I see LA in a cloud of smog then yes...that type of pollution needs to be controlled.
My only beef with Al Gore is that he doesn't practice what he preaches. I may be wrong but he talks about controling the gases that cause global warming which lead to the melting of the ice caps etc, etc. and the gases in smog (which need to be controlled) are mostly ozone.

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quote:
Originally posted by Produce man:
quote:
Originally posted by Pro:
quote:
Originally posted by Produce man:
quote:
Originally posted by Pro:
Another right wing web site found by Produce... [Sleep]

Typical liberal. Ignore the article because of the source. [Roll Eyes]
Oh? Tell me, how much do YOU read on, say, DailyKos or MoveOn.org?

None. But if you were to post an article that was on the site, I'd at least have the stones to comment on the article itself, rather than just blow it off because it was on that site.
Actually, your record of posts on this board suggests that exactly the opposite would happen.

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My only beef with Al Gore is that he doesn't practice what he preaches

I didn't mean to insinuate you were one of the kneejerk Gore-haters.

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quote:
Originally posted by FD2BLK:
My only beef with Al Gore is that he doesn't practice what he preaches

I didn't mean to insinuate you were one of the kneejerk Gore-haters.

I didn't think you did, I'm curious who are the kneejerk Gore-haters. Is it people that disagree with global warming just because Gore is a democrat? Because if that is the only reason that's pretty stupid.
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quote:
Is it people that disagree with global warming just because Gore is a democrat? Because if that is the only reason that's pretty stupid
Exactly. And I agree it is pretty stupid. Of course there are those who do the same when a high profile conservative takes a stand. They're just as dopey.

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As I have said before, Gore is more about what nations should do, rather than individuals. His advocacy lies in political action. Others take a more individual approach. Both are necessary, IMO.
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Another right wing web site found by Produce... [Sleep]

Typical liberal. Ignore the article because of the source. [Roll Eyes]
Oh? Tell me, how much do YOU read on, say, DailyKos or MoveOn.org?

None. But if you were to post an article that was on the site, I'd at least have the stones to comment on the article itself, rather than just blow it off because it was on that site.

You might try it sometime.

Maybe you'll remember this thread where you said,

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It's from the Huffington blog.

'Nuff said. [Roll Eyes]


Pooned.

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Gore is about control and trying to stifle debate. When he made his "flat earth" comments during his lecture on NBC, he showed another sample of his legendary intolerance. The Weather Channel person who wants to deny AMS certification is just clicking her heels for his cause.

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