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Mom
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posted March 26, 2007 07:39 AM
Mrs. Edwards' cancer has returned; not just back but now stage 4 and metastasized to her bones. It's a death sentence. What's your reaction to her husband's continuing his bid for the Presidency? This is the kind of issue that goes beyond politics and is bound to resonate with most voters on an emotional level. So, I ask two questions in this poll. How do you feel about Edwards running and whether or not you would use his wife's cancer as a factor in why or why you would or wouldn't vote for him.
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posted March 26, 2007 07:48 AM
The cynical conservative in me says it's a political ploy for sympathy, not only as she stands by his side on the campaign trail, but in the event of her death somewhere down the road.
The human being in me says they had to have discussed this amongst themselves and that she fully agrees with and supports his decision to continue. And that's all that should matter.
Not having been privy to any of their conversations, I'm inclined to the latter.
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posted March 26, 2007 07:51 AM
He is a sharp stick in Hillary's eye! Good show boy! ![[Rockon]](graemlins/icon_kidra.gif) ![[worship]](graemlins/icon_pray.gif)
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posted March 26, 2007 08:12 AM
Yeah Fearmonger I'm sure he was thinking about that when he found out his wife was going to die.
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wxguy1973
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posted March 26, 2007 08:21 AM
I can't imagine what they are going through. With that said, if it were me, I would stop running and spend every last second of my wife's life doing what SHE wants and just trying to enjoy life.
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posted March 26, 2007 08:23 AM
I have really bad news for all of us. We are all in this together and none of us are getting out alive.
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posted March 26, 2007 08:25 AM
and none of us are getting out alive.
Speak for yourself. I plan on living forever. Either that or go out in a blaze of glory saving the universe.
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posted March 26, 2007 08:25 AM
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Originally posted by wxguy1973:
I can't imagine what they are going through. With that said, if it were me, I would stop running and spend every last second of my wife's life doing what SHE wants and just trying to enjoy life.
I heard this sentiment expressed on a morning show today. Mrs. Edward's attitude toward that was basically, "But then you're just going home and waiting to die." I'm not sure I agree with her, but I can understand her position of going on with her life just as she had intended before she got this awful news.
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Kace
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posted March 26, 2007 08:26 AM
Yeah well, I'm immortal 'til proven otherwise.
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posted March 26, 2007 08:31 AM
Yeah well, I'm immortal 'til proven otherwise
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posted March 26, 2007 09:07 AM
I had mixed feelings.
It's their choice. I don't know them. If she's doing what's best for her, I'm all for it. If she's doing what she thinks is best for HIM, I'd encourage her to be a little more selfish at a time like this.
I've heard commentators say she loves the campaign trail. If that's true, perhaps this is the best thing for her. I hope so.
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posted March 26, 2007 09:26 AM
Since my name is "Mom" I approach this from the point of view of her children. They're still very young, certainly too young to lose their mother. She's choosing (in a sense) to leave them behind while she goes on the road with her husband to campaign with him/for him. Then she'll leave them behind again and on a more permanant basis when she dies. The children are not going on the campaign trail with their parents. They're staying home. I think, as a parent, that's where her priorites should lie - not with her husband but with what's best for her children. I have to think that being with them for as long as she's got is the most important factor of all. I tend not to be very judgemental but this has struck an emotional chord with me. I believe that both parents are being selfish in this instance. The Presidency isn't going anywhere. There's always 2012.
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posted March 26, 2007 09:58 AM
Did you know that Laura Bush has been treated for skin cancer since her hubby has been in office? Did it affect our lives at all that we know of? I don't know about you, but my dad has just found that cancer has come back a THIRD time. He first had it as skin cancer, then bladder, and the docs are going to biopsy what they are predicting will be cancer in his lungs near his alveolar region this week. I am carrying on like usual. So will he.
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The Thrill
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posted March 26, 2007 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by Kace:
Yeah well, I'm immortal 'til proven otherwise.
I thought that was Hogan's gimmick.
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posted March 26, 2007 11:47 AM
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Originally posted by wxguy1973:
I can't imagine what they are going through. With that said, if it were me, I would stop running and spend every last second of my wife's life doing what SHE wants and just trying to enjoy life.
It would appear that this IS what she wants.
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posted March 26, 2007 11:50 AM
<< Did you know that Laura Bush has been treated for skin cancer since her hubby has been in office? >>
I'm not sure how you can compare Laura Bush's cancer with Elizabeth Edwards's. It's not nearly the same thing. EE has Stage IV metastatic cancer, which, while treatable, is still fatal.
If their children were grown, I'd cheer them on, but since the kids are still so young and won't be joining them on the campaign trail, I feel like her time might be better spent creating memories with them. But it's their choice and I respect that.
[ March 26, 2007, 11:51 AM: Message edited by: Murphy Brown 2003 ]
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posted March 26, 2007 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by Murphy Brown 2003:
EE has Stage IV metastatic cancer, which, while treatable, is still fatal.
But since it IS treatable, there is no way of knowing WHEN it will be fatal. I heard one expert say last week that she could have as much as 10 years, depending of the success of the treatment. And as they years go by, there could be even more effictive treatments developed.
There is no way to know for sure.
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posted March 26, 2007 12:16 PM
This is apparently the Edwards' choice and we'll respect that. I hope that Mrs. Edwards will also take some time to be with her children and create good memories.
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posted March 26, 2007 12:51 PM
It's their choice and their call. I watched the 60 minutes interview last night. Very interesting. If you disagree with their choice, don't vote for him. I'm quoting Edwards (both of them) on that. He said when you offer yourself for public service, everyone has a right to judge you (paraphrasing here). So if you disagree with their choices, don't vote for 'em. So simple!
My mother died of breast cancer a year ago last November. It wasn't an easy death. I'll be keeping good thoughts for Mrs. Edwards.
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posted March 27, 2007 02:47 AM
Follow up:
Apparently Katie Couric is taking a beating for the 60 Minutes interview.
Some comments to the CBS website are suggesting she was too harsh; and are pointing out that she worked up until very close to the time of her husband's death of colon cancer. Katie is also a mother to young children.
I don't know if those comments are true and don't care to research them--I just post this for what it's worth.
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posted March 27, 2007 03:37 AM
Mom, I understand where you're coming from, but here's my take. Before I get to that point my overall feeling is that life goes on. I don't say that as a simple throw away line. My brother died of AIDS 15 years ago. As a family we circled the wagon, but we also had a family business to keep running. At the end of every day he wanted to know what we did that day, how things were going and what we were planning for the future. He lived through our living, he wanted to live his last days/months and not just be surrounded by a bunch of crepe hangers.
As a wife, perhaps Elizabeth sees this campaign as a way to keep on living, to get out into the world and talk with her fellow humans literally about life and death.
As a parent, perhaps she is showing her children how to live fully to the end, how to support the people you love, and how to bring out the best in the people you meet.
These people are wealthy, there are nannies and jets and ways for them to be together that we can only dream of.
None of us gets out of this alive, so why not deliver the world a graceful exit?
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posted March 27, 2007 07:58 AM
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posted March 27, 2007 09:23 AM
Who's John Edwards?
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posted March 27, 2007 12:01 PM
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Who's John Edwards?
Elizabeth's husband.
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posted March 27, 2007 06:02 PM
I think you have to let these people make their own choices. I also believe using the word "selfish" is very harsh in this instance. Sure making a run for the presidency is going to be incredibly frenetic and time consuming. The kids will get the short end even if their mother outlives the underwriters' timetables. Having any ambition, when it comes to short-changing your children, is selfish. But that is, in the end, what you're trying to teach them. Isn't it? You WANT them to reach for something. You want them to take a risk. You want to die hacking away at the ball, not sitting in the dugout having decided this isn't your day.
The breast cancer survivors I have spoken with say that they have to put the disease in the back of their minds in order to go on living. If they allow the anxiety about death to consume them, they cease to function.
I think Elizabeth Edwards should live HER life to the fullest and let her kids witness her doing THAT. There's plenty of time for them to change their minds about running for the presidency. From what I can tell, she's a strong and decent person, not an ice princess like Theresa Heinz Kerry. She's sincere and "real" and you have to take her at her word. This is what she wants to do. In truth, her husband isn't going anywhere anyway. I've seen the future and, trust me, it ain't that guy, decent man though he is. Hillary Clinton will be in the White House to serve the next term. I'm not a fan. But I have seen her on several occasions. She's "presidential" in spades and she has the sensibilities of a woman to boot. That will be a very difficult combo to over-come.
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posted March 28, 2007 04:51 AM
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posted March 28, 2007 05:17 AM
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Originally posted by The Absurdist:
I think you have to let these people make their own choices. I also believe using the word "selfish" is very harsh in this instance. Sure making a run for the presidency is going to be incredibly frenetic and time consuming. The kids will get the short end even if their mother outlives the underwriters' timetables. Having any ambition, when it comes to short-changing your children, is selfish. But that is, in the end, what you're trying to teach them. Isn't it? You WANT them to reach for something. You want them to take a risk. You want to die hacking away at the ball, not sitting in the dugout having decided this isn't your day.
The breast cancer survivors I have spoken with say that they have to put the disease in the back of their minds in order to go on living. If they allow the anxiety about death to consume them, they cease to function.
I think Elizabeth Edwards should live HER life to the fullest and let her kids witness her doing THAT. There's plenty of time for them to change their minds about running for the presidency. From what I can tell, she's a strong and decent person, not an ice princess like Theresa Heinz Kerry. She's sincere and "real" and you have to take her at her word. This is what she wants to do. In truth, her husband isn't going anywhere anyway. I've seen the future and, trust me, it ain't that guy, decent man though he is. Hillary Clinton will be in the White House to serve the next term. I'm not a fan. But I have seen her on several occasions. She's "presidential" in spades and she has the sensibilities of a woman to boot. That will be a very difficult combo to over-come.
Good post, Absurdist, and I concede that my use of the word "selfish" to describe the Edwards' was harsh. I further concede that it's their choice and as I said earlier, I'm normally not a judgemental person. I suspect that my judgement in this case comes from a very cynical political viewpoint. When one is a Presidential candidate the world around them is not the "real" world that the rest of us live in. Any decision made by a candidate and his wife is open to public scrutiny. My negative feelings about the decision they made is that I believe many factors played a part in that decision including tying to guage what the public would think. I don't think it was simply a matter of what's best for us as a couple or what's best for our children?
I think the decision involved all the people around John Edwards weighing in on cash raised, ground gained and polling numbers. I think a whole bunch of people thought about questions such as "Will the American people call John Edwards a quitter if he drops out?" "Will dropping out ruin his political future?" "Will people feel compassion toward both of them and admire their fortitude if they continue?"
I don't think Edwards has a snowball's chance in Hell of getting the nomination. Maybe he knows that too and this is all calculated to set him up strongly for the next Presidential election. I guess that's my problem with their decision. I wonder if it's calculated and manipulated and politically based and I wonder whether this was an instance where politics trumped what should have been a moral and private decision.
Despite it all, I wish them only the best and hope and pray that Elizabeth's cancer doesn't keep her from living a life with purpose, love and hope.
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posted March 28, 2007 02:25 PM
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I have really bad news for all of us. We are all in this together and none of us are getting out alive.
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posted March 28, 2007 06:05 PM
Mom, yes, you are harsh. Perhaps the hubby has been treating you unkindly knowing, as he must, that this will be another fruitless year for the hometown nine.
Here's what makes me cynical about John Edwards: the mole is gone. He had that thing near his mouth removed. Plastic surgery always makes me more jaundiced.
A belated Happy Saint Patty's to you.
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